Listen to Peter Gorman, award-winning investigative journalist and author of Ayahuasca in My Blood and Sapo in My Soul, as he talks with Rak Razam about indigenous shamanic medicine (ordeal medicines) and the rise of shamanism in the West. Gorman first drank the shamanic medicine ayahuasca in 1984 and is one of the first modern wave of intrepid explorer-adventurers to document this medicine. He also introduced sapo, the secretion of the Phyllomedusa bicolor frog used by the Matses, to popular attention. What is the role of these substances in the wild, and how are they being used as the West absorbs the shamanic medicines? How can the sustainability of the vine and the frog be ensured, and how can commerciality be balanced with spirituality? A robust, provocative discussion on the state of the Western shamanic community and its impact on indigenous cultures, with Gorman and Razam. — Here is Peter’s profile snatched from his Facebook profile: Amazon hero type. Overweight, getting white hair, still good looking and strong. Work in the Amazon and in Fort Worth. Have won journalism awards for years, have been first at many things in the Amazon. Just love the jungle, and my kids and grandkid. Used to be a good looking young guy and now I’m turning into an old fat white guy. But I still have spark and fire and still love working hard. And if I could do it over again I’d probably do the same thing, complete with dumb human mistakes. Cause it’s been a real good ride up to here. — Here is Rak’s profile snatched from his website: Rak Razam is a founding editor of Undergrowth, Australia’s leading alternative arts and literature magazine, and the world’s leading experiential journalist, writing about and helping shape the emergence of a new cultural paradigm in the 21st century. Author of the critically acclaimed book Aya: A Shamanic Odyssey and the companion volume of interviews, The Ayahuasca Sessions (, he is a frequent lecturer on ayahuasca and the shamanic revival sweeping the West, and is the co-director for the forthcoming Aya: Awakenings DVD. He was also interviewed and appears in the CBS (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation’s) 2007 audio documentary In Search of the Divine Vegetal talking about his ayahuaca experiences, which has been broadcast twice due to special demand to millions of people throughout North America.

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